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		<title>A Conversation About AMERICAN DERVISH by Ayad Akhtar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Joines Schinsky</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Published January 9, 2012 by Little, Brown American Dervish is about Hayat Shah, a young Muslim boy growing up in the American midwest in the 1980s, trying to make sense of his faith and his identity. Hayat&#8217;s parents have raised him in Muslim culture but have not given him any religious training.  When his mother&#8217;s [...]
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Published January 9, 2012 by <a href="http://www.hachettebookgroup.com/books_9780316183314.htm" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.hachettebookgroup.com/books_9780316183314.htm?referer=');">Little, Brown</a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em>American Dervish </em>is about Hayat Shah, a young Muslim boy growing up in the American midwest in the 1980s, trying to make sense of his faith and his identity. Hayat&#8217;s parents have raised him in Muslim culture but have not given him any religious training.  When his mother&#8217;s dear friend Mina&#8211;who is deeply spiritual and devoted to her own interpretation of Islam and with whom Hayat is quite taken&#8211;moves in with the family and takes Hayat under her wing, he explores his beliefs for the first time. Tied up in Hayat&#8217;s discovery of what it means to be Muslim is his first exposure to anti-Semitism within his community, and it contributes to turmoil that results in Hayat doing something that hurts Mina irreparably.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">While I have some mixed feelings about <em>American Dervish</em>, I was quite struck by many parts of it, and I&#8217;m really pleased to have my friend <a href="http://kalenski.tumblr.com" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/kalenski.tumblr.com?referer=');">Kalen Landow</a>, who first recommended the book to me in mid-2011, here discussing it with me today. [warning: some light spoilers ahead]</p>
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<p>RJS: I spent the better part of 2011 looking forward to <em>American Dervish</em> after you read a galley and said that it goes to a place you’ve never seen a book go. What did you mean by that?</p>
<p>KL: I wanted to re-read <em>American Dervish</em> to make sure my reaction to what had shocked me before was the same. I originally read this about nine months ago&#8211;given the volume you and I read, that was a lifetime ago.</p>
<p>Yes, my reaction was the same. I’ve never, that I can recall, read a novel where characters are so blatantly anti-Semitic. Being Jewish, you read the lines, cringing, not quite believing you’re reading what you’re reading. And you remind yourself these are only characters in a book, while knowing at the same time there are plenty of people out there&#8211;of all faiths&#8211;who feel exactly this same way. When I was 14 or 15, one of my best friends at school told me I was going to hell for not believing Jesus was the son of God and reading this made me recall that and other similar memories and experiences. (Some not nearly so distant&#8230;.)</p>
<p>I read a lot of novels that deal with graphic, raw themes but this one hit closer to home than I ever anticipated it would.</p>
<p>Can you recall a book with such anti-Semitic characters?</p>
<p>RJS: I can’t. And I find it remarkable&#8211;and brave&#8211;that Akhtar pulls back the curtain on anti-Semitism within the Muslim community as candidly as he does. I was too young in the early 80s to know about or remember the events and political tension that appear in the book, and Akhtar’s characters made the history real for me in a way that learning about it in school never did. I think there’s an interesting role reversal happening here, too&#8211;the anti-Semitism Akhtar reveals within the Muslim community is parallel in many ways to the anti-Muslim rhetoric we’ve been hearing from ultra-conservative Christian communities since 9/11. I don’t think that’s an accident. Akhtar forces readers into a difficult conversation, and I wondered at times if he saw the anti-Semitism as a way to make Muslims the bad guys and get even closed-minded readers on his side before he came around to the real point. What do you think?</p>
<p>KL: Yes, I think you may be right and I also agree with your assessment about anti-Muslim rhetoric. It seems everyone in the book, with the exception of perhaps Nathan, had a prejudice against one of the three primary religions. We all think we’re right and the others are wrong. On that note, I found Naveed’s character to be the most complex and the most fraught&#8211;even more than dear Hayat. He was the most accepting of Nathan, yet he was riddled with his own contradictions. He was the least pious character in the story.</p>
<p>Whose story intrigued you the most?</p>
<p>RJS: I  agree about Naveed. I found some of the characters to be more like caricatures or archetypes than fully realized, and Naveed was one of the exceptions. I was also very drawn to Mina. That she worked so hard to escape the restrictions of orthodox Muslim life&#8211;fleeing her husband, moving to America, taking up with a Jewish man&#8211;only to find herself trapped and nearly killed by it was heartbreaking. While I’m thinking of that: many of the female characters in <em>American Dervish</em>, Hayat’s mother chief among them, are quick to criticize Muslim men for their behavior in relationships and their treatment of women. I got the impression that Akhtar had great sympathy for his female character but wanted to call out or indict the male characters. And that made me wonder what he was really trying to say about Muslim culture. Did you read this as a criticism? An indictment? Something else?</p>
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<p>KL: A criticism, definitely. I sense Akhtar has a strong mother, one who feared he would turn out like other Muslim men. Funny, all the stereotypes. I’m sure some of them ring true, but that the women thought Jewish men were the model makes me laugh. I guess we all have our prejudices! Mina was a fascinating character, and speaking of her, I want to talk about Hayat, particularly her relationship with him.</p>
<p>I still can’t decide if he took to Islam so fervently because of Mina or if he would have with any teacher. I guess now with a little distance, it was probably <em>because</em> of her. Hayat was so smitten with Mina, that she could have introduced any philosophy or religion and he would have bitten. Yet, this fervor for Islam is exactly what lead to the biggest conflicts of the story&#8211;the conversation Hayat had with Imam and the actions that followed. I also think we would have had a completely different book had Hayat been, say, 17 and not 12 when the critical parts of the story took place. I doubt he would have become radicalized but would have had a better understanding of the consequences prior to putting his plans into action.</p>
<p>RJS: You’re right that Hayat’s age is crucial. At 12, he’s entering that adolescent search for identity, and he’s impressionable. When Mina takes him under her wing, she hands him a ready-made identity; when he visits the mosque, he picks up another one&#8211;one that seems more manly and powerful&#8211;from the Imam. The story turns on Hayat’s youth and inability to reason out the flaws in the Imam’s logic; his morality isn’t developed enough for him to be able to put what’s right ahead of his desire to be accepted. I agree with your point that Hayat would have picked up whatever Mina wanted to teach him&#8211;since his parents didn’t give him any philosophical/religious upbringing, he was hungry for something.</p>
<p>KL: On that note, at first I was surprised by Hayat turning on Nathan. It seemed out of character, yet maybe it wasn’t. Hayat was so devoted to his study of Islam that the rhetoric coming from the Islamic Center had more influence on him than his own father did. He didn’t respect Naveed, yet Naveed loved Nathan as a brother and would have done anything for him. Was that a plotting misstep or an insightful move on Akhtar’s part? Hayat had known Nathan for most, if not all, of his life. He’d never had a reason to hate Nathan before. And in fact, Muneer had always praised Jewish men.</p>
<p>RJS: You know, now that I think about it, I think it was a misstep. Sociologists talk about the mere exposure effect&#8211;that once we have a positive experience with someone from a group we have stereotypes about, our stereotypes begin to erode&#8211;and it seems to me that Hayat’s relationship with Nathan, his knowledge that Nathan is a good man who loves Mina and will care for her, and the messages he received from Muneer should have made him, if not slower to accept the Imam’s anti-Semitic teachings, at least more hesitant to apply them to Nathan. If Akhtar wanted readers to get inside the head of an anti-Semitic character, he should have given the existing ones more screentime instead of pulling Hayat into it.</p>
<p>KL: But, Hayat was so smitten with Mina that he didn’t want Nathan to have her. I’m not sure at 12 years old, you’re <em>that</em> in love with someone, but in the context of the book it was believable enough.</p>
<p>Overall, I enjoyed the book a lot and it held up on a second reading. I’m curious to see what Akhtar does next and I hope to see him mature as a writer. His storytelling abilities are impressive and I do stand by my original reaction that I’ve never seen a novel go where this one went. This will be a fantastic book for book groups&#8211;there is just so much to talk about in terms of stereotypes and all of our prejudices.</p>
<p>RJS: I second the recommendation for book groups&#8211;there is (obviously!) a lot to discuss here&#8211;and I’m also curious to see if/how Akhtar will grow. I wasn’t impressed with the writing (and we agreed on Twitter that <em>American Dervish</em> doesn’t qualify as literary fiction), but I really appreciate the issues and original perspective. This is an engaging read, and I’m glad you mentioned it all those months ago to pique my interest. Thanks for re-reading it so we could discuss it together!</p>
<p>KL: Thanks for suggesting we talk about it together. The best part of reading isn’t being moved by a book&#8211;it’s being moved by a book and then discussing it with a friend.</p>
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		<title>Quotable: TOWNIE by Andre Dubus III</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading Townie for an upcoming interview with the author, and I&#8217;ve taken so many notes and underlined so many passages that I&#8217;ve run out of space on the pages and had to tuck extra paper into my book. Townie is a memoir about Dubus&#8217;s hardscrabble childhood in New England mill towns and how [...]
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<blockquote><p>Somehow&#8230;studying all I&#8217;d studied, I&#8217;d felt like more than just me. My reading had joined my mind to the thinkers before me, to the millions of people whose lives they indirectly wrote about, these scholars who sat in a tower so high they could see everyone and I could too.</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t you love that? &#8220;My reading had joined my mind to the thinkers before me.&#8221; That&#8217;s why we do it, right?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good morning from Richmond, where we are not having a snowy weekend and are deeply jealous of all of you who are. We&#8217;re observing a snowday in spirit, though, by staying in our pajamas, drinking a lot of coffee, and doing as little as possible. (Okay, that&#8217;s what we do every Sunday, but still.) It&#8217;s [...]
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<p>Good morning from Richmond, where we are not having a snowy weekend and are deeply jealous of all of you who are. We&#8217;re observing a snowday in spirit, though, by staying in our pajamas, drinking a lot of coffee, and doing as little as possible. (Okay, that&#8217;s what we do every Sunday, but still.) It&#8217;s been a few weeks since I did a Salon post, so let&#8217;s get caught up!</p>
<p><strong>Reading Life</strong></p>
<p>The closest I&#8217;ve gotten to winter weather this year has been in my reading of <em>The Snow Child</em> by Eowyn Ivey (out February 10 from <a href="http://www.hachettebookgroup.com/books_9780316175678.htm" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.hachettebookgroup.com/books_9780316175678.htm?referer=');">Reagan Arthur</a>). Set in Alaska in the 1920s, it&#8217;s about a couple who desperately want a child but cannot have one. Their attempt to build a homestead in the wilderness is a constant struggle that pulls them further and further apart. In a rare moment of buoyancy, they build a little girl out of snow only to discover the next morning that she is gone. Then they see a young girl running through the forest, wearing the mittens they left on their snow child, and despite the niggling sense that they might be coming down with a shared case of cabin fever, they hope that she is real. Or at least really magical. It&#8217;s a thoroughly enchanting story and a very strong debut novel, and I certainly hope it&#8217;s not the last we&#8217;ll hear from Eowyn Ivey. I&#8217;ll be writing more about it later. For now, you can check out the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPn9GY1g_g" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPn9GY1g_g&amp;referer=');">gorgeous book trailer</a>.</p>
<p>It was quiet around the blog this week because I couldn&#8217;t bear to tear myself away from the<a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/2012/01/19/mark-your-calendars-for-in-one-person/"> new John Irving novel</a> long enough to write much of anything. I always think it&#8217;s a good problem when I&#8217;m enjoying reading too much to blog. I&#8217;ve also been dipping into Edna O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s short story collection <em>Saints and Sinners. </em>I&#8217;m liking it well enough, but it took me longer than usual to get into it because the opening piece is more than 40 pages long&#8211;easily the longest in the bunch&#8211;and collections that start with long pieces are one of my readerly peeves. I know collections are organized as they are for artistic reasons, but I find it&#8217;s harder to get into the flow of reading short fiction when the first story feels more like reading a novel. But that&#8217;s my problem, not the book&#8217;s. And because I&#8217;m a good little book polygamist now, I&#8217;m also reading <em>Townie</em> by Andre Dubus III. I&#8217;m not far enough into it to have an opinion yet, but I have high hopes. Finally, I&#8217;m working on a collaborative post about <em>American Dervish</em> by Ayad Akhtar, which is remarkable in several ways and disappointing in several others.</p>
<p><strong>Writing/Blogging Life</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m still having a blast with my gig at Book Riot, which is a delicious mixture of writing and social media (which is a sort of writing, too). It&#8217;s exciting to be part of a young site trying new things and keeping the conversation about books fun and irreverent, and the smart, creative posts our contributors write have pushed me to crack a different part of my brain open and start thinking and writing about about books in a new way.  This week, I had a post about <a href="http://bookriot.com/2012/01/17/how-to-say-i-do-to-shared-bookshelves-without-ruining-your-relationship/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bookriot.com/2012/01/17/how-to-say-i-do-to-shared-bookshelves-without-ruining-your-relationship/?referer=');">how to merge bookshelves with your partner</a>, started a collaborative column with Liberty Hardy called <a href="http://bookriot.com/2012/01/18/introducing-the-well-readheads/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bookriot.com/2012/01/18/introducing-the-well-readheads/?referer=');">The Well-Readheads</a>, and took a deep dive into <a href="http://www.pinterest.com/bookriot" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.pinterest.com/bookriot?referer=');">Pinterest</a>. I&#8217;m still figuring out how to balance Book Lady with Book Riot, and I expect it to be more of an ongoing process than a one-time solution. Again, a great problem to have.</p>
<p>If the number of internet kerfuffles this week is any indication, the bookosphere has officially woken up from its holiday slumber. I won&#8217;t pretend to be in the know about the YA blogging world, but I saw enough this week to know that there&#8217;s been yet another argument about the definition of &#8220;review&#8221; and the standards of professional behavior. I&#8217;m on record in many places with the opinion that a review is an objective examination of a work&#8211;it is about the book, the writing, the craft&#8211;whereas a discussion of a book that is primarily about the reader is something not-review&#8211;a reaction or response, perhaps. My thoughts on use of the term &#8220;review&#8221; have evolved quite a bit in the four years I&#8217;ve been blogging, and while I don&#8217;t think we should ever expect to get to standardized terminology, I do think the conversation about what bloggers do and how it is similar to and different from traditional reviewers is important, as is the conversation about the value bloggers add to the literary community. I also think that Kit Steinkellner&#8217;s suggestion that the only way to prevent ridiculous drama that is counterproductive to bloggers&#8217; struggle for credibility is to disengage from it is right on&#8211;her post about it is possibly the smartest thing I&#8217;ve ever read about <a href="http://bookriot.com/2012/01/19/authors-bloggers-and-when-the-internet-feels-like-a-low-budget-horror-movie/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bookriot.com/2012/01/19/authors-bloggers-and-when-the-internet-feels-like-a-low-budget-horror-movie/?referer=');">the author-blogger relationship</a>, and I&#8217;m not just recommending that you read it because it appeared on Book Riot.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s <a href="http://publishingperspectives.com/2012/01/intellectual-bullying-or-when-book-publicists-go-too-far/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/publishingperspectives.com/2012/01/intellectual-bullying-or-when-book-publicists-go-too-far/?referer=');">the asshat</a> who wrote a complaint-riddled post about the press kit that accompanied a galley he received, accusing the publicist of &#8220;intellectual bullying.&#8221; I can&#8217;t decide what&#8217;s more absurd&#8211;that a blogger is upset about a publicist doing her job and sending information about a book she is paid to promote&#8211;and that he received for free and was in no way required to pay attention to&#8211;or that Publishing Perspectives actually ran the post. Must have been a slow news day.</p>
<p>This concludes the latest bloggy brain dump. What&#8217;s up in your reading and writing life these days?</p>
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		<title>Mark Your Calendars for IN ONE PERSON</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cue up the Sister Act 2 Oh, Happy Day video, it&#8217;s time to celebrate! Or, it will be on May 8, when new books from John Irving (the original #pantyworthy author) AND Toni Morrison hit the shelves. I&#8217;ll be taking the day off to observe what is essentially a literary holiday (employers: consider yourselves warned), [...]
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<p style="text-align: left;">Cue up the Sister Act 2 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-x5HkOMJs" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-x5HkOMJs&amp;referer=');">Oh, Happy Day</a> video, it&#8217;s time to celebrate! Or, it will be on May 8, when new books from John Irving (the original #pantyworthy author) AND Toni Morrison hit the shelves. I&#8217;ll be taking the day off to observe what is essentially a literary holiday (employers: consider yourselves warned), but I couldn&#8217;t wait to start talking about the Irving, <em><a href="http://books.simonandschuster.com/In-One-Person/John-Irving/9781451664126" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/books.simonandschuster.com/In-One-Person/John-Irving/9781451664126?referer=');">In One Person</a></em>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">When the galley arrived last week, I entertained the thought of waiting until closer to the release date to read it for approximately 3.8 seconds. But who am I kidding? I love John Irving, and after the disappointing embarrassment of <em>Until I Find You</em> and the almost-there-but-not-quite <em>Last Night In Twisted River</em>, I needed to be sure we weren&#8217;t looking at a &#8220;three strikes, you&#8217;re out&#8221; situation. I don&#8217;t like to break up with authors, but I&#8217;d rather quit while I&#8217;m ahead and can preserve the good memories than force myself to continue reading them after the magic is gone. Good news, ladies and gents: the magic is not gone.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em>In One Person</em> is about Billy Abbott, a bisexual man who grew up on the campus of an all-boys boarding school in the late 50s and early 60s and discovered at a young age his tendency to have crushes on &#8220;the wrong people.&#8221; The narrative follows him into an adulthood marked by loneliness (straight women don&#8217;t trust him; gay men suspect him of being a fraud) and loss (in true Irving style, Billy&#8217;s father is absent and his mother dies tragically) and through the horrors of the AIDS crisis of the early 1980s. Many of the Irving hallmarks are present&#8211;wrestling, chief among them&#8211;and they fit naturally into the story (as opposed to the shoehorn-them-all-into-one-scene-ness of<em> Twisted River</em>). Notably, the only bears are of the hirsute gay male variety. However, adults making questionable decisions abound! And no one loses a limb!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Just as<em> The Cider House Rules</em> is Irving&#8217;s abortion book, <em>In One Person</em> is his sexual diversity book. Characters do not hesitate to express their distaste for rigidly conventional people&#8211;admittedly, the proportion of characters who are sexually unconventional is far from realistic, but that&#8217;s what Irving does, right, quirks writ large? And he has a point&#8211;everyone has *some* taboo desire, however repressed&#8211;and the sooner we acknowledge that and accept each other, the better off we&#8217;ll be.  Irving avoids most of the pitfalls that make politically motivated fiction so often problematic, though <em>In One Person</em> has a distinct &#8220;preaching to the choir&#8221; feel at times. Will he change minds with this book? Maybe. Is the book a wash if he doesn&#8217;t? Not at all. With <em>In One Person</em>, Irving presents an affecting story with timeless themes about a very specific time in American culture. It&#8217;s what he does best, and I, for one, am glad he&#8217;s back.</p>
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		<title>Talking ZONE ONE with Colson Whitehead</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<p style="text-align: left;">If you&#8217;d told me a year ago that not only would I be reading a zombie novel, I would be loving it, co-hosting a book club podcast about it, AND interviewing the author, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d have believed you. But such is the beauty of collaborative projects that breed comfort-zone-expanding recommendations, and I couldn&#8217;t be happier.<em> Zone One</em> was awesome; Josh, Jenn, and I had a fun conversation about it; and Colson Whitehead was a terrific guest.</p>
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<div>Intro Music; Re: Your Brains &#8211; Jonathan Coulton</div>
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<p>What We’re Reading</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Josh</span></p>
<p>[1:16] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780307592736" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780307592736?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Wild</span></a>, Cheryl Strayed, March 2012 (also recommended by <a href="http://twitter.com/readandbreathe" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/twitter.com/readandbreathe?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Michele</span></a>)</p>
<p>[4:33] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9781934964668" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9781934964668?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">One Soul</span></a>, Ray Fawkes</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Rebecca</span></p>
<p>[6:43] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780767930581" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780767930581?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Nobodies Album</span></a>, Carolyn Parkhurst (also recommended by <a href="http://twitter.com/annkingman" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/twitter.com/annkingman?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ann Kingman</span></a>)</p>
<p>[9:46] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/9781609530792" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/9781609530792?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Lola Quartet</span></a>, Emily St. John Mandel, May 2012</p>
<p>[10:36] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9781555975791" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9781555975791?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Otherwise Known as the Human Condition</span></a>, Geoff Dyer</p>
<p>[12:05] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780062072238" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780062072238?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Mysteries of Pittsburgh</span></a>, Michael Chabon</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Jenn</span></p>
<p>[15:10] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/9781451643350" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/9781451643350?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Birds of a Lesser Paradise</span></a>, Megan Mayhew Bergman, March 2012</p>
<p>[15:50] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780375507250" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780375507250?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Cloud Atlas</span></a>, David Mitchell (as recommended by <a href="http://twitter.com/conorati" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/twitter.com/conorati?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Christine</span></a>)</p>
<p>[17:43] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9781402238802" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9781402238802?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Sylvester</span></a>, Georgette Heyer</p>
<p>[19:41] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780312641894" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780312641894?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Cinder</span></a>, Marissa Meyer (out now!)</p>
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<p>Intermission; My Girlfriend’s Dead &#8211; The Vandals</p>
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<p>Zone One: The Discussion</p>
<p>[22:24] <a href="http://twitter.com/pnpbookseller" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/twitter.com/pnpbookseller?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Jon from Pages &amp; Pages</span></a> weighs in on his first zombie novel experience.</p>
<p>[23:43] How many thumbs was that again?</p>
<p>[25:00] Who is this <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/search/apachesolr_search/colson%20whitehead" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/search/apachesolr_search/colson_20whitehead?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Colson Whitehead</span></a> anyway?</p>
<p>[25:25] Lit &amp; genre: <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780307595089" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780307595089?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Last Werewolf</span></a>, <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780670022311" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780670022311?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Magician King</span></a>, <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/search/apachesolr_search/michael%20chabon" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/search/apachesolr_search/michael_20chabon?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Michael Chabon</span></a></p>
<p>[27:50] We are the monsters!!! (mandatory <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/search/apachesolr_search?author_filter=Kirkman%2C%20Robert" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/search/apachesolr_search?author_filter=Kirkman_2C_20Robert&amp;referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Walking Dead</span></a> reference)</p>
<p>[31:15] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780345504975" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780345504975?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Passage</span></a>, Justin Cronin</p>
<p>[33:50] We decide that “mid-apocalyptic” is a thing.</p>
<p>[35:10] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780307346612" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780307346612?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">World War Z</span></a>, Max Brooks</p>
<p>[46:29] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/search/apachesolr_search/margaret%20atwood" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/search/apachesolr_search/margaret_20atwood?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Margaret Atwood</span></a></p>
<p>[47:30] We speculate about critical reviews vs. ratings.</p>
<p>[49:00] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">A Modest Proposal</span></a></p>
<p>[51:30] <a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780312358341" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9780312358341?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Leftovers</span></a>, Tom Perrotta</p>
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<p>Intermission 2; Zombie &#8211; The Cranberries</p>
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<p>Zone One with Colson Whitehead (Spoiler Alert!)</p>
<p>[53:00] The author himself answers our questions!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9781905881369" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.wordbrooklyn.com/aff/bookrageous/book/v/9781905881369?referer=');"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Granta 117: Horror</span></a></p>
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<p>Outro; Re: Your Brains, Jonathan Coulton</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the great pleasures of working in the book industry has been discovering how many book people are also food people. I&#8217;ve eaten some of the best meals of my life with fellow bibliophiles who love food almost (or even equally) as much as they love books. So it came as a total surprise [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="none"><g:plusone href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/2012/01/12/ruth-reichl-and-the-joys-of-reading-eating-and-reading-about-eating/" size="standard" count="true"></g:plusone></div><p>One of the great pleasures of working in the book industry has been discovering how many book people are also food people. I&#8217;ve eaten some of the best meals of my life with fellow bibliophiles who love food almost (or even equally) as much as they love books. So it came as a total surprise to me when I realized, while perusing the shelves of the <a href="http://www.bluebicyclebooks.com" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.bluebicyclebooks.com?referer=');">Blue Bicycle Books</a> on a trip to Charleston, SC last week, that&#8211;cookbooks aside&#8211;I had never read a book about a food. This troubled me so much that I made charts for you! (<em>Pie</em> charts, natch.)</p>
<p>Before the trip, my reading-and-eating life looked like this:</p>
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<p>Charleston is an incredible town for eating, and I didn&#8217;t plan to do much reading on the trip, but when I spied a copy of Ruth Reichl&#8217;s <em>Tender at the Bone</em>, I just couldn&#8217;t say no. I mean, I must have been high when I packed two longish novels for a trip whose itinerary was basically eat, walk, shop, walk, eat, nap, eat, walk, eat. (Or maybe I was too busy fantasizing about <a href="http://www.huskrestaurant.com" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.huskrestaurant.com?referer=');">Husk&#8217;</a>s pork fat-infused butter, so good it made my pal Emily declare that Jesus himself must have been out back churning it.) But essays? About food? Perfection. And now my graph looks like this!</p>
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<p>Hooray for the tiny purple sliver! <span id="more-5619"></span></p>
<p>In <em>Tender at the Bone</em>, Reichl recounts her childhood in New York, with a mother who would eat literally anything (spoiled or not!) and a father who was too absorbed in his work (as a book designer! *swoon*) to notice. Her mother&#8217;s dinner parties were known far and wide for the, uh, creative (and frequently dangerous) fare, and early on, Reichl took it as her duty to warn her favorite guests away from the worst dishes. Not a very promising beginning for a cook, but luckily, her encounters with food didn&#8217;t end with her mother, and there were family friends and cooks who willingly shared their culinary tricks with her even when she was quite young. Reichl&#8217;s chronologically organized essays create a charming narrative that takes her from New York to boarding school in Canada, to graduate school in the midwest, and eventually to California, where lived in what was essentially a commune while working at a local cooperatively run restaurant.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot to enjoy and appreciate about <em>Tender at the Bone </em>simply as a memoir&#8211;Reichl&#8217;s life is fascinating, and her confession that some of the details are fudged makes her all the more likeable&#8211;but as a meditation on what food can mean in our lives, it is terrific. As in, not to be missed. And there are recipes!</p>
<p>This book was something of a revelation for me. For as long as I&#8217;ve understood that reading is how I make sense of the world, I&#8217;ve understood that other people use other art forms to do the same. I&#8217;ve known people who made sense of the world through music, painting, dance, poetry. For some reason, though I&#8217;ve always considered good food to be a kind of art, I never thought of food as the same kind of conduit. (This despite the fact that I spent every evening of my own childhood perched on a stool in my parents&#8217; kitchen and have grown to love cooking as an adult.) When Reichl stated clearly that cooking and eating were her ways of making sense of the world, something clicked, and I was officially in love with her and with the idea of a food memoir in general.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s where you come in! I have Anthony Bourdain&#8217;s multiple memoirs already on the TBR list, and I&#8217;m planning to read Reichl&#8217;s later books, but I want more. Please, tell me about your favorite food memoirs and help me end 2012 with a graph that looks more like this:</p>
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<p>And if you&#8217;re headed to Charleston, I&#8217;d be happy to talk your ear off about the adventures in food I had there.</p>
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		<title>Should we have required reading for the world?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Joines Schinsky</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe it’s my I-took-a-lot-of-English-classes Stockholm syndrome talking, but I think we should. I&#8217;m over at Book Riot this week proposing diplomacy by literature, and I&#8217;d love to hear about the books that would make your &#8220;if everyone read this, the world would be a better place&#8221; list. Put practicality, logistics, and translation issues aside and join [...]
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		<title>The Bare Necessities&#8211;Kayt Sukel (DIRTY MINDS: HOW OUR BRAINS INFLUENCE LOVE, SEX, AND RELATIONSHIPS)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Joines Schinsky</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bare Necessities is a series in which authors and book industry professionals share annotated reading lists of books they love. Kayt Sukel is a freelance science and travel writer as well as the author of Dirty Minds: How Our Brains Influence Love, Sex and Relationships, out now from Free Press (my review here).  She [...]
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<p><em>Kayt Sukel is a freelance science and travel writer as well as the author of </em><a href="http://books.simonandschuster.com/Dirty-Minds/Kayt-Sukel/9781451611557" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/books.simonandschuster.com/Dirty-Minds/Kayt-Sukel/9781451611557?referer=');"><strong><em>Dirty Minds: How Our Brains Influence Love, Sex and Relationships</em></strong></a><em>, out now from Free Press (<a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/2012/01/04/quickie-dirty-minds-by-kayt-sukel/">my review here</a>).  She shares how literature, particularly love stories, helped scientists figure out that love had a biological basis—and how some of her favorite novels mesh with the latest and greatest findings concerning the neurobiology of love and sex.</em></p>
<p><center><a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/kaytsukel.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5615" title="kaytsukel" src="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/kaytsukel.jpg" alt="kayt sukel" width="150" height="225" /></a> <a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/dirty-minds.jpg"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-5606" title="dirty minds" src="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/dirty-minds-198x300.jpg" alt="dirty minds" width="150" height="227" /></a></center>I’ve always been a book lover.  I devour novels like others do chocolates—holing up for hours at a time to fully immerse myself in new characters and worlds without interruption.  And one thing that has always amazed me about reading is how I can generate so much feeling—empathy, irritation, attraction and even love—for people who are built only from words and imagination.  This goes beyond relating to a character.  I know that with certain books I physically feel something for the people described within the pages.  I grieve when the story ends and our relationship is cut short (and, more often than not, re-read the book so we can visit again).  So as I researched <em>Dirty Minds</em>, I was intrigued to learn that Semir Zeki, a professor of neuroaesthetics at University college London and author of <em><strong>Splendors and Miseries of the Brain: Love, Creativity, and the Quest for Human Happiness</strong></em>, based his initial hypothesis that love must have some kind of biological seat in the brain on the fact that love is so often mentioned in art and literature.</p>
<p>Think about it:  how often have you read a poem or book passage about love and thought it could have been written about you and your intended?  (Or at least wished it had been—I’m still waiting for the boy who will quote me a Rumi poem).  How can certain song lyrics, movie scenes and book excerpts inspire us to cry, rejoice and feel?  If you are a reader, you understand that the feeling of love is beautifully, painfully captured in so many books—some written hundreds of years ago, some just this week.  And Zeki and his colleague, Andreas Bartel, were inspired to try to find and measure love use a neuroimaging technique called functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) because so many of us recognize and relate to those descriptions—it suggests there is something common about love and other emotions inside of us, something that is an intrinsic, biological part of our natures, passed from generation to generation, that allows us to both recognize and share in the emotional experiences transcribed to the printed page.  Turns out, Zeki and Bartels were right.</p>
<p>It’s probably no surprise that many of the books I count among my favorites made the list just because they capture some aspect of love so well.  Margaret Mitchell’s <em><strong>Gone With the Wind</strong></em> is known for its fiery main character, Scarlett O’Hara—but what has always struck me is how Mitchell describes where Scarlett’s affections lie.  Scarlett spends the bulk of the book obsessing about her beloved Ashley, but Mitchell makes sure that we readers are well aware of how much Rhett affects her physically and emotionally, even if she isn’t as quick to pick up on it.  While we may never know for certain just who Kurban Said is, this author captured a sweet and poignant love between his <em><strong>Ali and Nino</strong></em>—a relationship that transcends culture, faithlessness and war.  Said captures love as it should be.  Even, perhaps, if it can’t stand up in the face of real life.  Of course, one of the best recognized books about love has to be <em><strong>Love in the Time of Cholera</strong></em> by Gabriel Garcia Marquez.  It captures it all—attachment, romantic love and, of course, desire.  And I’d dare say Susan Minot’s <em><strong>Evening</strong></em> and Anne Tyler’s <em><strong>The Accidental Tourist</strong></em> manage to keep up with Marquez on that front.  <span id="more-5614"></span></p>
<p>But there is more to love than just romance.  Attraction (especially attraction when one should know better) plays a pivotal role in Janice Y.K. Lee’s <em><strong>The Piano Teacher</strong></em>.  Unexpected friendship is explored in a cunning and tender way in Manuel Puig’s <em><strong>Kiss of the Spider-Woman</strong></em>.  Sue Miller’s compelling novel, <em><strong>The Good Mother</strong></em>, explores the love between a mother and child, and how it can be affected by the introduction of a new love affair.</p>
<p>Of course, love also has a darker side.  For one, it doesn’t always last.  Graham Greene’s <em><strong>The End of the Affair</strong></em> will have anyone who has ever experienced a bad break-up grabbing for the tissues.  One of my favorite novels, <em><strong>The Blind Assassin</strong></em> by Margaret Atwood, often feels like Atwood stole a few scenes from real life between her portrayal of a doomed love affair, a marriage of convenience and the ties of family.  And Isabel Allende’s <em><strong>Paula</strong></em>, a love letter to her sick daughter, inspires me to read a chapter and then run off to hug my kid as long as he’ll let me.</p>
<p>And love also has a taste of the pathological.  There’s a reason why the themes explored in Vladimir Nabokov’s <strong>Lolita</strong> still have such a hold on us.  Nabokov describes something that is disturbing and yet so familiar.  A.M. Homes manages the same feat in her more modern take, <em><strong>The End of Alice</strong></em>.</p>
<p>Religious love is well explored in both Peter Matthiessen’s <em><strong>At Play in the Fields of the Lord</strong></em> and Umberto Eco’s <em><strong>The Name of the Rose</strong>.</em>  Transgenderedness gets an interesting look in Chris Bohjalian’s <em><strong>Trans-Sister Radio</strong></em>.</p>
<p>This is by no means an exhaustive list.  The biological basis of love, that shared neural substrate that connects us all, means love and its partners in crime—desire, attraction, heartbreak and happily ever after—are touched on in almost every book sitting on shelves across the globe.  It’s likely that each and every one of us book lovers could add another 10 books to this list.  And I hope you do in the comments.</p>
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		<title>The First Five Books I Want to Talk About in 2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Joines Schinsky</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without further ado, here are the ones I&#8217;ve already read and can&#8217;t wait to have out in the world so we can talk about them together.      Carry the One by Carol Anshaw (March, Simon and Schuster) This novel is ostensibly about what happens in the decades after a group of friends accidentally kill a [...]
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<p><center><strong><a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/carry-the-one.jpg"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-5609" title="carry the one" src="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/carry-the-one-199x300.jpg" alt="" width="159" height="240" /></a> <a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/lifespanofafact.jpg"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-5550" title="lifespanofafact" src="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/lifespanofafact.jpg" alt="lifespan of a fact book john d'agata" width="178" height="242" /></a> <a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/birds-of-a-lesser-paradise.jpg"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-5610" title="birds of a lesser paradise" src="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/birds-of-a-lesser-paradise-198x300.jpg" alt="" width="158" height="240" /></a>  </strong><img class="alignnone  wp-image-5611" title="wild" src="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/wild-201x300.jpg" alt="" width="161" height="240" /><strong><a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lola-quartet.jpg"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-5612" title="lola quartet" src="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lola-quartet-207x300.jpg" alt="lola quartet" width="166" height="240" /></a></strong></center><strong><br />
<em>Carry the One</em> by Carol Anshaw</strong> (March, <a href="http://books.simonandschuster.com/Carry-the-One/Carol-Anshaw/9781451636888" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/books.simonandschuster.com/Carry-the-One/Carol-Anshaw/9781451636888?referer=');">Simon and Schuster</a>)</p>
<p>This novel is ostensibly about what happens in the decades after a group of friends accidentally kill a young girl in a late-night car accident. What it’s really about is the way that every family has a defining moment, an instant to which they spend the rest of their lives responding, the time that separates Before from After. It’s about regret, our ability to admit our mistakes and move on from them (and what happens when we can’t), the impact of time, and the stories we tell to make sense of our experiences and the ways in which we are damaged. As compelling as the story is&#8211;and it is quite compelling, slipping between characters’ perspectives to cover twenty-five years of their lives&#8211;the real treat of this novel is Anshaw’s writing. Her creative choices and the way she crafts sentences make for surprises on every page, so this dark novel comes with a heady dose of delight. Highly recommended for, well, just about everyone.</p>
<p><strong><em>The Lifespan of a Fact</em> by John D’Agata and Jim Fingal</strong> (February, <a href="http://books.wwnorton.com/books/detail.aspx?ID=23104" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/books.wwnorton.com/books/detail.aspx?ID=23104&amp;referer=');">WW Norton</a>)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been <a href="http://www.thebookladysblog.com/2011/11/16/the-first-book-you-must-put-on-your-2012-reading-list/">raving about this one</a> for a while already. When John D’Agata, an essayist and creative writing instructor, was hired in 2003 to write a piece about a teenager’s suicide jump from the Stratosphere in Las Vegas, the publication that commissioned the piece rejected it, citing factual inaccuracies in the text. <em>The Believer</em> picked it up and assigned then-intern Jim Fingal to be the fact checker, and what followed was nearly seven years (!) of back-and-forth as D’Agata and Fingal argued over what, exactly, the goal of an essay is and how much artistic license a writer is allowed when crafting a story about a real-life occurrence. In <em>The Lifespan of a Fact</em>, D’Agata’s original text stands alongside Fingal’s questions, notes, and factual disputes as the two have a fascinating dialogue (at times, a passionate argument) about the tension between factual accuracy and emotional poignancy.</p>
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<p>Classifiable as meta-nonfiction, this book is a meditation on the art of writing and reading nonfiction. D’Agata and Fingal invite readers to consider the editorial process and teach us the important lesson that we cannot assume a book is factually true simply because it is labeled nonfiction. For its candor, originality, and potential to change the way you read, this book is not to be missed.</p>
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<p><strong><em>Birds of a Lesser Paradise</em> by Megan Mayhew Bergman</strong> (March, <a href="http://books.simonandschuster.com/Birds-of-a-Lesser-Paradise/Megan-Mayhew-Bergman/9781451643350" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/books.simonandschuster.com/Birds-of-a-Lesser-Paradise/Megan-Mayhew-Bergman/9781451643350?referer=');">Scribner</a>)</p>
<p>In the first story of this collection, a young woman packs her son into the car for a trip in search of the roadside zoo that houses her deceased mother’s parrot. The parrot can speak in her mother’s voice, and she is desperate to hear it, as she has realized that she no longer remembers what it sounded like. This story is terrific and heartbreaking, and it is only the beginning. Every last piece in this collection deserves to be here; there’s not a weak one in the bunch. It’s a rare book that deserves that praise, and an even rarer debut. Megan Mayhew Bergman’s stories are as technically skilled as they are emotionally affecting. They beg to be savored, but you’ll have to work hard to resist gulping them down in one sitting.</p>
<p><strong><em>Wild: From Lost to Found on the Pacific Crest Trail </em>by Cheryl Strayed</strong> (March, <a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/book/200313/wild-by-cheryl-strayed" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.randomhouse.com/book/200313/wild-by-cheryl-strayed?referer=');">Knopf</a>)</p>
<p>Devastated by the death of her mother, the dissolution of her marriage, and her dalliances with hard drugs, Cheryl Strayed (just 26 at the time) walked away from her life&#8211;what was left of it&#8211;and set out to hike the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Crest_Trail" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Crest_Trail?referer=');">Pacific</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Crest_Trail" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Crest_Trail?referer=');">Crest</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Crest_Trail" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Crest_Trail?referer=');">Trail</a>. No easy feat for a seasoned hiker, the PCT presented Strayed, who had no experience whatsoever with long-distance trekking, with innumerable unforeseen challenges. But it also provided months of solitude, time for reflection, and an escape from people and habits she wouldn’t otherwise have had the strength to avoid, and in doing that, it made her whole again. Everything that <em>Eat, Pray, Love</em> wanted to be but wasn’t, <em>Wild</em> is an authentic story about leaving home to find yourself. Highly recommended for fans of the <a href="http://bookriot.com/2011/12/30/best-of-book-riot-genre-kryptonite-stunt-memoirs/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bookriot.com/2011/12/30/best-of-book-riot-genre-kryptonite-stunt-memoirs/?referer=');">stunt</a> <a href="http://bookriot.com/2011/12/30/best-of-book-riot-genre-kryptonite-stunt-memoirs/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bookriot.com/2011/12/30/best-of-book-riot-genre-kryptonite-stunt-memoirs/?referer=');">memoir</a> who crave genuine tales of adventure.</p>
<p><strong><em>The Lola Quartet</em> by Emily St. John Mandel</strong> (May, <a href="http://unbridledbooks.com/index.php/our_books/book/the_lola_quartet" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/unbridledbooks.com/index.php/our_books/book/the_lola_quartet?referer=');">Unbridled Books</a>)</p>
<p>Gavin Sasaki’s life implodes when his fiancee leaves him and his editor at a prominent New York newspaper discovers that he has falsified quotes in several recent articles. Gavin’s sister offers him a job in his hometown of Sebastian, Florida, and though he is reluctant to accept, he doesn’t have any other options. Upon his return, Gavin finds out that his high school girlfriend might have had his child without telling him, and he spends his off-work hours trying to locate his daughter and uncover a decade’s worth of deception and secrets.</p>
<p>Chapters rotate between characters’ points of view and alternate between past and present as Mandel explores corruption, culpability, and the nature of memory in a story that touches on drug  dealing, theft, economic catastrophe, and crimes of desperation. Readers will recognize notes of Mandel’s previous novel <em>The Singer’s Gun</em> in these pages, and while the ground she treads here is not wholly new, her ability to turn a gorgeous phrase and invite readers to consider the questionable decisions we make in service of our own survival make it worth the read.</p>
<p><strong><em>Home</em> by Toni Morrison</strong> (May, <a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/book/204832/home-by-toni-morrison" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.randomhouse.com/book/204832/home-by-toni-morrison?referer=');">Random House</a>)</p>
<p>Okay, this isn&#8217;t technically on the list because I haven&#8217;t read it yet. If I had a firstborn child to offer in exchange for a galley of this, I’d give it serious consideration. And honestly, I don’t really care what it’s about. It’s Toni Morrison, and reading her is like going to church for me. That’s all I need to know. Can’t wait to get my hands on this one and talk about it with you, dear reader.</p>
<p>This post <a href="http://bookriot.com/2012/01/03/five-more-books-to-look-for-in-2012/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bookriot.com/2012/01/03/five-more-books-to-look-for-in-2012/?referer=');">originally published at Book Riot</a> (with some minor changes here).</p>
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		<title>Quickie: DIRTY MINDS by Kayt Sukel</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Published January 3, 2012 by Free Press You&#8217;ve probably heard someone talk about how the brain is the largest sexual organ in the body, and you&#8217;ve probably groaned in response (unless of course the person saying it was Dr. Ruth, who is, by the way, awesome on Twitter). Take a roll in the hay with [...]
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<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Published January 3, 2012 by <a href="http://books.simonandschuster.com/Dirty-Minds/Kayt-Sukel/9781451611557" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/books.simonandschuster.com/Dirty-Minds/Kayt-Sukel/9781451611557?referer=');">Free Press</a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">You&#8217;ve probably heard someone talk about how the brain is the largest sexual organ in the body, and you&#8217;ve probably groaned in response (unless of course the person saying it was Dr. Ruth, who is, by the way, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/AskDrRuth" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.twitter.com/AskDrRuth?referer=');">awesome on Twitter</a>). Take a roll in the hay with Kayt Sukel&#8217;s <em>Dirty Minds: How Our Brains Influence Love, Sex, and Relationships</em>, and you&#8217;ll be singing a different tune.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Acknowledging that &#8220;more and more, neuroscientists are demonstrating that the brain <em>is</em> behavior&#8211;the two simply cannot be teased apart,&#8221; Sukel sets out to synthesize the available information about how our brains influence our hearts and what that can mean for human behavior. She examines love as a social bond that supports survival, analyzes the chemistry of love and sex, and pulls back the curtain on the biology that can make love so addictive, stressful, and amazing. <em>Dirty Minds</em> isn&#8217;t so much about the question of nature vs. nurture as it is about the interaction of the two. Sukel understands that we are more than slaves to our genes, and she takes society&#8217;s influence into consideration when she presents scientific findings about gender differences, monogamy and infidelity, sexual orientation, and whether &#8220;mommy brain&#8221; is a real phenomenon. If that doesn&#8217;t sound awesome enough for you, she also writes about <a href="http://gawker.com/5804402/heres-what-your-brain-looks-like-when-you-masturbate" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/gawker.com/5804402/heres-what-your-brain-looks-like-when-you-masturbate?referer=');">the time she masturbated in an fMRI machine</a> so she could participate in one of the studies she writes about.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Remarkable for the breadth of ground it covers in exploring this still-relatively-new area of study, <em>Dirty Minds</em> is a terrific introduction to the hard sciences&#8217; approach to sex research. Readers need not have any pre-existing knowledge of the subject, only an appetite for information and an openness to questioning convention. Highly recommended.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">For extra credit: read alongside <em><a href="http://www.harpercollins.com/books/Sex-at-Dawn-Christopher-Ryan?isbn=9780061707810&amp;HCHP=TB_Sex+at+Dawn" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.harpercollins.com/books/Sex-at-Dawn-Christopher-Ryan?isbn=9780061707810_amp_HCHP=TB_Sex+at+Dawn&amp;referer=');">Sex at Dawn</a></em> for a look at the other side of many of the same studies and an argument firmly in the &#8220;nurture&#8221; camp.</p>
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